Captive rear end from fast frank installed

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bilet69

Discussion Starter · Feb 24, 2022

Captive rear end from Fast Frank installed... highly recommended
Also captive wheel spacers from Driven.

Wheel changes are a breeze NOW.

Can honestly say the R7 is one of the worst I have ever changed.

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XCLR8TN

· #2 · Feb 24, 2022 (Edited)

I sort of understand how these work but I haven't had my R7 apart yet to recognize what is different :/ lol

Edit #2: If they make the axle block captive, how does changing the chain tension work? I am so confused!

Edit #3: Is the axle block bolted to the axle somehow? How is the caliper bracket held in place?

hahaha edit #4: I've spent too much time flipping back and forth between pics. Are there 2 holes drilled through the axle block, axle carrier (? inside swingarm), and corresponding threaded holes in the caliper bracket, so all of those get bolted together so they move as one piece?

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bilet69

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 25, 2022

XCLR8TN said:
I sort of understand how these work but I haven't had my R7 apart yet to recognize what is different :/ lol

Edit #2: If they make the axle block captive, how does changing the chain tension work? I am so confused!

Edit #3: Is the axle block bolted to the axle somehow? How is the caliper bracket held in place?

hahaha edit #4: I've spent too much time flipping back and forth between pics. Are there 2 holes drilled through the axle block, axle carrier (? inside swingarm), and corresponding threaded holes in the caliper bracket, so all of those get bolted together so they move as one piece?

I sort of understand how these work but I haven't had my R7 apart yet to recognize what is different :/ lol No worries

Edit #2: If they make the axle block captive, how does changing the chain tension work? I am so confused! Inner block is captive to outer Block, they slide like normal with adjusters

Edit #3: Is the axle block bolted to the axle somehow? How is the caliper bracket held in place? No, axle works normally. Caliper is bolted to the inner block

hahaha edit #4: I've spent too much time flipping back and forth between pics. Are there 2 holes drilled through the axle block, axle carrier (? inside swingarm), and corresponding threaded holes in the caliper bracket, so all of those get bolted together so they move as one piece? yes all slide as one

XCLR8TN

· #4 · Feb 25, 2022

bilet69 said:
I sort of understand how these work but I haven't had my R7 apart yet to recognize what is different :/ lol No worries

Edit #2: If they make the axle block captive, how does changing the chain tension work? I am so confused! Inner block is captive to outer Block, they slide like normal with adjusters

Edit #3: Is the axle block bolted to the axle somehow? How is the caliper bracket held in place? No, axle works normally. Caliper is bolted to the inner block

hahaha edit #4: I've spent too much time flipping back and forth between pics. Are there 2 holes drilled through the axle block, axle carrier (? inside swingarm), and corresponding threaded holes in the caliper bracket, so all of those get bolted together so they move as one piece? yes all slide as one

I had to look at an exploded diagram to understand. I've never had a bike with a hollow swingarm like this, where the axle carrier/slider is inside.

So the 'machining' Fast Frank does is just the threaded holes to connect everything together with 2 bolts each side?

Thank you for the responses!

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bilet69

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 25, 2022

XCLR8TN said:
I had to look at an exploded diagram to understand. I've never had a bike with a hollow swingarm like this, where the axle carrier/slider is inside.

So the 'machining' Fast Frank does is just the threaded holes to connect everything together with 2 bolts each side?

Thank you for the responses!

Yes sir basically... the caps on end I just wired

Vansmack

· #6 · Mar 1, 2022

Back to the beginning of this thread, that is exactly what it says on the Fast Frank website, stock rear wheel change is the worst. I've done it a few times, it is very frustrating and it is not a matter of learning a process or procedure, you'd need three people helping to not have parts sliding all over the place while doing it, but you would all be butting heads while doing it. I'll be adding that kit at some point, I might buy the new parts kits from Frank so the bike isn't down for a few weeks while waiting for shipping and machining of the stock parts.

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FSTASFCK

· #7 · Mar 2, 2022

Vansmack said:
Back to the beginning of this thread, that is exactly what it says on the Fast Frank website, stock rear wheel change is the worst. I've done it a few times, it is very frustrating and it is not a matter of learning a process or procedure, you'd need three people helping to not have parts sliding all over the place while doing it, but you would all be butting heads while doing it. I'll be adding that kit at some point, I might buy the new parts kits from Frank so the bike isn't down for a few weeks while waiting for shipping and machining of the stock parts.

Mine were back in about a week maybe week and a day 🤷‍♂️

Vansmack

· #8 · Mar 2, 2022

FSTASFCK said:
Mine were back in about a week maybe week and a day 🤷‍♂️

Oh, that is quick. You might be closer, less shipping time. I'm in Southern California, but if the turn around is like that I'd do it. If it was a month, that's a different story.

FSTASFCK

· #9 · Mar 2, 2022

I am about 3 hours away but shipping was 2 days cuz it goes hours away in the wrong direction lol but I’d say 2 weeks or less and maybe if you asked he might be able to do it same day and return it 🤷‍♂️ He’s a good dude!

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bilet69

Discussion Starter · #10 · Mar 2, 2022

Mine was a super fast turn around as well

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Vansmack

· #11 · Mar 2, 2022

What parts do you send? The internal adjusters, the outer blocks, and the caliper bracket?

I have a track day in two days, maybe when I get back I'll send it in.

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bilet69

Discussion Starter · #12 · Mar 2, 2022

Right side: brake arm bracket, inner adjuster and slide and cap and outside outer piece.
Left side inner slider and adjuster and cap and outer piece.

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FSTASFCK

· #13 · Mar 2, 2022

Bilet, what sprocket studs and nuts do you use?

bilet69 said:
Right side: brake arm bracket, inner adjuster and slide and cap and outside outer piece.
Left side inner slider and adjuster and cap and outer piece.

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bilet69

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 2, 2022

FSTASFCK said:
Bilet, what sprocket studs and nuts do you use?

Standard studs, shallow nuts from Frank

FSTASFCK

· #15 · Mar 2, 2022

bilet69 said:
Standard studs, shallow nuts from Frank

Ahhh I thought u had Ti studs

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bilet69

Discussion Starter · #16 · Mar 2, 2022

FSTASFCK said:
Ahhh I thought u had Ti studs

I wish lol anyone make them?

Vansmack

· #17 · Mar 22, 2022

Shipped my stuff to Frank last Thursday, he got it yesterday, all done and he will be shipping it all back to me tomorrow morning, I should have it by Friday. It was too late to ship back today. Woo hoo!!

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FSTASFCK

· #18 · Mar 22, 2022

Vansmack said:
Shipped my stuff to Frank last Thursday, he got it yesterday, all done and he will be shipping it all back to me tomorrow morning, I should have it by Friday. It was too late to ship back today. Woo hoo!!

If you plan on using TRS, the pins need to be modified.

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bilet69

Discussion Starter · #19 · Mar 22, 2022

FSTASFCK said:
If you plan on using TRS, the pins need to be modified.
View attachment 983

Now I need to find a lathe lol

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FSTASFCK

· #20 · Mar 22, 2022 (Edited)

bilet69 said:
Now I need to find a lathe lol

I sent George an email about permanently modifying all of the new pins so people wouldn’t have to modify them to work and he said he would recoat it for $12 just fyi

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