[bilet69]

Axel wiring and securement? For you racers and track day guys and girls what have you done or gone about this?

Im on the fence about what to do with the axels....
Kind of have a good idea for the front... but the rear im lost
Any pics of what you have done would be great!

Thanks!

 

[Vansmack]

Axel wiring and securement? For you racers and track day guys and girls what have you done or gone about this?

Im on the fence about what to do with the axels....
Kind of have a good idea for the front... but the rear im lost
Any pics of what you have done would be great!

Thanks!

Great question. I drilled the front from the side at an angle, tied it to the drilled pinch bolt, I like using the stainless steel quick clips for ease in disassembly and no need to rewire. For the rear, that was how I ended up with the Womet rear axle sliders/spools, our rules say you can do that in place of safety wire.

 

[bilet69]

Great question. I drilled the front from the side at an angle, tied it to the drilled pinch bolt, I like using the stainless steel quick clips for ease in disassembly and no need to rewire. For the rear, that was how I ended up with the Womet rear axle sliders/spools, our rules say you can do that in place of safety wire.

So you can use the axel sliders in lue of safety wire and clips??? NICE. I'll have to check WERA

 

[Vansmack]

So you can use the axel sliders in lue of safety wire and clips??? NICE. I'll have to check WERA

I was kind of surprised, below from the California Roadrace Association.
2.5: Safety Wire Requirements The following must be safety wired:

Axles and/or axle nuts, except in the case of axle sliders that prevent the safety-wiring of axles/axle nuts.
Fork pinch bolts


WERA is a bit less conclusive.
CHAPTER EIGHT
TECHNICAL INSPECTION GENERAL MACHINE REQUIREMENTS
The following item must be safety wired, or secured in a manner approved by Tech:
axles or axle nuts
axle caps and/or pinch bolts


Maybe axle through sliders are an approved securing per tech?

 

[bilet69]

I was kind of surprised, below from the California Roadrace Association.
2.5: Safety Wire Requirements The following must be safety wired:

Axles and/or axle nuts, except in the case of axle sliders that prevent the safety-wiring of axles/axle nuts.
Fork pinch bolts


WERA is a bit less conclusive.
CHAPTER EIGHT
TECHNICAL INSPECTION GENERAL MACHINE REQUIREMENTS
The following item must be safety wired, or secured in a manner approved by Tech:
axles or axle nuts
axle caps and/or pinch bolts


Maybe axle through sliders are an approved securing per tech?

Guess I'll have to ask...

 

[Brendan_23]

I marked the axel when it’s torqued and then took it off the bike and drilled a hole straight through. Then stuck a diaper pin through it. Then drilled the stud for the adjustment blocks and used that as a anchor point for the safety wire. (I drilled both studs of the axel adjustment blocks because I’ve seen many bikes with similar styles back off and lose the nuts). That’s the best picture I got for the rear at the moment

 

[bilet69]

I marked the axel when it’s torqued and then took it off the bike and drilled a hole straight through. Then stuck a diaper pin through it. Then drilled the stud for the adjustment blocks and used that as a anchor point for the safety wire. (I drilled both studs of the axel adjustment blocks because I’ve seen many bikes with similar styles back off and lose the nuts). That’s the best picture I got for the rear at the moment View attachment 927

Did you use a castle nut on the rear?
What about the front?
Have better pics?

 

[Vansmack]

I was thinking too, just drill a hole through the block for the wire. If you are worried about losing the adjustment nuts, that was a great option too Brendan. I've seen them loose on bikes but don't recall anyone loosing one, it can happen though. Check and tighten your bolts people.

 

[Vansmack]

Brendan_23, Do you have a quick pull cup on the front axle? Hard to tell from that photo but it appears so.

 

[Brendan_23]

Did you use a castle nut on the rear?
What about the front?
Have better pics?

Yes I will get better pics this weekend I’m using the factory nut. Just drilled part of the threads showing. The I front drilled the back fork leg and ran a diaper pin to the pinch blot.

Brendan_23, Do you have a quick pull cup on the front axle? Hard to tell from that photo but it appears so.

Good eye. It’s a one off part to say the least

 

[Vansmack]

Yes I will get better pics this weekend I’m using the factory nut. Just drilled part of the threads showing. The I front drilled the back fork leg and ran a diaper pin to the pinch blot.


Good eye. It’s a one off part to say the least

Ok, not through the nut, just through the axle, then pin it, that works. I couldn't tell that but I was looking at mine and wondering how the heck you got a pin down in there, that makes a lot more sense. LOL You wouldn't really need to drill the adjustment bolts, just wrapping the thread should work, that should keep the nuts from backing out at all, the end would be at the pin. I just shipped my parts to Frank, maybe when I get them back I'll set up this way.

 

[Brendan_23]

Well I was already there working on them so it wasn’t that much more work to drill it. You could technically spin it off on the threads since it’s the open end on the thread there’s no question. The adjustment nuts are really easy to forget when you’re doing a gearing change in between sessions and you are in a hurry.

 

[Vansmack]

Well I was already there working on them so it wasn’t that much more work to drill it. You could technically spin it off on the threads since it’s the open end on the thread there’s no question. The adjustment nuts are really easy to forget when you’re doing a gearing change in between sessions and you are in a hurry.

For such a simple little thing the adjustment nuts can be a PITA.

 

[bilet69]

Well I was already there working on them so it wasn’t that much more work to drill it. You could technically spin it off on the threads since it’s the open end on the thread there’s no question. The adjustment nuts are really easy to forget when you’re doing a gearing change in between sessions and you are in a hurry.

I ended up drilling the very end of the bolt and put some safety wire thru for (just incase)

 

[Brendan_23]

 

[Vansmack]

I've been looking and not finding anything quite like that yet, where did you get the thumb nuts? Got my parts back from Frank yesterday and installed them, was thinking of your nuts the whole time. 🤣

 

[bilet69]

View attachment 946
View attachment 947

Damn not gonna lie, I like your nuts too buddy 😅😅😅

Did you omit the washer behind the axel nut?

Thanks

 

[Brendan_23]

I've been looking and not finding anything quite like that yet, where did you get the thumb nuts? Got my parts back from Frank yesterday and installed them, was thinking of your nuts the whole time. 🤣

They are custom machined nuts lol. I didn’t buy them
And bilet69 yes the washer is still there it’s just hard to see

 

[EL_BOMBERO]

 

[bilet69]

Where did you get the Castle nut at?